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! ~$ x& Z) n3 P* B: S今天很累,又是照毕业照,又要去汇丰面试,然后过龙洞继续照,穿着皮鞋走了一天,疼呀`~~~[em06] ) o* k6 W o" n
* y" O: A8 v. M5 j4 T" ]好像扯远了 ,进入正题:
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9 g- h% z H H, r; D7 q6 S汇丰通知2:00pm面的,偶2:00pm才到公司门口(万恶的3号线,浪费我20分钟,差D迟到 ),然后由何MM带着进去,在Jackson Yu的Office门口等。过了几分钟,一中大的GG又到了,他是2:30面的(不知道他面得怎么样)。我们一边谈一边等Jackson~~~~~
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大概2:15吧,我进去开始。里面除了Jackson(以下简称J),还有一个技术部的GG(简称G),以下括号内容为注释。好,PK开始~~~~ PK内容均用粤语~~~~
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~~~~~(省略问候语)
) F& |6 L$ P3 h2 KJ:你点识XXX(偶推荐人,三月初已经在汇丰上班)架?+ P9 S: q6 I) W4 _$ i# Z; \
ME:(一开始就问这个,吓了一跳)距系我班隔。
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4 M/ h. f6 U( V2 K7 E3 ], HJ:咁点解你比距迟咁多先投汇丰呀?4 c- K+ F' u+ i+ O0 }+ o- |* d
ME:因为上学期我主要系准备考研,无谂稳工隔野。5 S& t, R. p! ]; ?+ K& _
9 Q$ o" ?* D/ Q- t1 [& SJ:哦,考边呀?
, Z2 d# |% Y3 g3 ^: {3 aME:XXX
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J:几分呀?" f7 F7 c$ [ x" W3 a2 x
ME:XXX
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5 K# z& r' O9 Z) U3 [2 f* {J:同上线分差好多喔!* n2 D* E @3 n9 a, l* ?4 d
ME:系,因为数学考得唔好(讲到偶伤心处[em06] ), ^" U/ s: d- } }" s# Q" K
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J:点解你用咁多时间准备都考得唔好呀?' ^2 k3 E. x' M( B3 K* l+ ?
ME:因为我时间分配得唔好,导致数学考试隔失败。; P+ l3 G" ~- T# h8 H- ?+ o: o; I" F
' |" }1 _5 M, F9 R+ F9 F- a( UJ:如果汇丰要你,你最快几时上班?(我系网上睇过隔面经当中,呢条都系作为Jackson隔last quetion,竟然咁快问我,汗 )+ D! e9 e( k8 {
ME:7月2 s- W! D9 v( H' [4 o! \. `
# C/ Q; }' b! B9 U7 ^8 VJ:至少为止有无Offer呀?) x1 L& ]0 W/ Y; P4 N( E8 U! }8 l4 s
ME:无
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& q4 a5 e4 e; `: BJ:咁有无投过其它公司呀?
8 v) k6 k4 N CME:投过几间,只有两间有过面试,不过都已经无晒消息(偶投简历唔勤快,师弟师妹们莫学我 )
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J:哦,边两间呀?6 |" @ d, z8 e4 _% {
ME:XXX和YYY* X1 b$ |" \( P1 ], A; t# Y! W5 E
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ME:XXX主要做网络管理、系统维护等,YYY主要做设备,同我地专业相关。" U/ M* M' Q3 ^
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J:好隔。咁而家我地来用英文交谈下啦。(戏玉来啦)0 p% \4 v' Y `9 _5 P
ME:好。9 p; A+ L% V# a. M
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J:what can you do in the first year?7 v, t# h8 W8 P$ W5 _2 Y! b6 D/ \
ME:do some coding, testing ,maintance ,design and so on (口快快讲多左个design,噩梦开始 ). O7 J7 @3 V, j; i5 r6 B2 B. ?* y% @
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J:design?how to design?
$ k/ n& }3 Q2 C% j" Y( N- {ME:first do some required demand(需求分析,唔知有无译错,反正当时我就系咁答) ,then coding .....(被打断)
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' |8 x4 b% E' E" J0 U. SJ:required demand ?how to do?
0 q$ R+ j! V) g" xME:contract with my customer...(再次被打断)+ w4 \+ [" j' b- k t# m9 K6 P2 L7 B
7 J+ A& K# O% y R$ WJ:i don't think our customers would tell you .then how will you do ?( z0 O' y- \1 B9 \
ME:(有点怯场)er...i can ask my friends who's working in the similar cases.
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J:your friend will know HSBC's work?no, i don't think so .now tell me how to do ?6 n Z2 }5 f! H7 w
ME:(更加怕怕)er...maybe i can serch the information in the internet ,like search engine...
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J:you mean you use internet whole day and do nothing?
7 S( K' t) S2 w# vME:no ....(但此时已经哑口无言,Jackson则继续追问)4 L7 D( B+ U7 ^) q) j) l% G
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J:you say you can do the work like "system analyse immediately"(指我份application form 上面写隔野),但系无十年经验系无可能立即做系统分析隔,系迈呀?(呢句系同技术部GG讲隔。)说明你对软件工程一d都唔熟(呢度用番中文)( f8 Y3 h' i# y$ L/ r: H% W% r
ME:我已经唔知点答好% @: P( E- c4 [ e5 t9 s
(关于呢个问题纠缠左好耐,我谂有7到8分钟,可能唔止,果时思维已经好混乱 ,最后答左句:i can get the information from my leader,距先放过我 )
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J:would you how to finish a software project?* c8 g2 p2 n6 k8 o& `% J1 O
ME:yes ,i have experiece about this ......(省略前三个项目)...and the latest project is my final project。. A. e+ v: J( g% [ \! y- E
' o. ]6 o/ m3 OJ:what is this project about?: V. j5 f/ u7 a) U9 u: B5 d
ME:it's about a product manage system ,i'm required to use java and database technology to finish it.(主要系用JAVA写界面,然后连接数据库)
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ME:yes
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J:how long have you done ?4 e* }; o* ^" {0 X
ME:i start form this term but i have several exams at that time .so i start it exactly at april
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J:so you do this jod about two months?. }9 x0 z- u( P6 J! \$ D
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ME:i know how to design a software.6 j% C, a( W, r) i+ E3 S
( k3 B e5 F( ?0 AJ:how?
8 L& A: ~$ R7 UME:first we should do the planning work ,then coding ,testing .....(诸如此类啦,我都唔系好记得具体点答啦 )
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ME:the planning stage(参考网上面经的说法 )& M$ t* M# l' s- F' y" c
$ ^+ r# R( @9 J) f4 |J:why?
' |0 o5 ^1 \% M+ a5 e% xME:if we do the planning work well ,then the rest stages would be more easier.& W8 p0 {, \4 G" W( [6 }4 K
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J:in which part do you think you do the best?
% X9 ]$ `6 I. `& U, z, e: g' ]; _ME:the database.(事实上偶只做左数据库部分,JAVA部分都未做 )2 {: i" D! e" H$ Y; m4 W& g" b
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J:why?(又来“逼供”)
3 C- {6 O% N+ c5 o5 `ME:because i have finished it and modify it several times and .....
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ME:no, i find this mothed in the wedsite .; g0 q: V( M# C- r$ M
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J:(继续问why)$ f) ]1 O4 O5 j5 Q7 t( w0 J& I
ME:because i have finished it and modify it several times and .....(唔知点答,请求用中文,批准)
$ }) ^1 M6 `; g. f* TME:我参考过网上一D好有经验隔数据库设计人员隔思想来修改数据库,呢部份我大概做左三个星期,而且我同指导老师讨论过,距都同意咁样建系好有效隔~~~~
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J:(显然未满意,继续追问点解)+ Y: \5 H+ Y8 r2 G+ R
ME:(又有点不知所措,只系重复左上面句话。而家谂番,Jackson应该系想知道具体实现方法,我应该答:“我用左数据冗余来简化数据查询次数~~~~~”但前面比距追问搞到头脑一片空白,未谂到咁答[em06] )
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J:(最后Jackson都无追问落去)你个PROJECT完成未?
' c! R/ ~% R/ p" f2 k' k( ]) SME:未,做有JAVA部分未做,估计来紧呢两个星期可以完成。然后就做下TESTING,仲有写埋论文/ W2 Y* K/ O" j' _# g' o4 o/ M, t( {
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J:你觉得你个PROJECT有边部分系可以继续改进隔?尽管你未完成
, B" w4 B7 Q& I4 iME:JAVA同数据库连接隔呢PART
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J:WHY?
0 l$ @ c4 g8 s7 IME:数据库系后台供查询隔,我地要求用JAVA写界面,呢个系面向客户,我认为连接数据库呢PART改进得好隔话可以为客户提供更大隔便利(呢度有D吹水,当时都无乜经过大脑思考就咁答啦,汗自己一个 )
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J:如果你用XXX就方便啦~~~2 t! f3 F7 b* M# I: g ]: T
ME:???(唔知距讲乜 )5 B3 K" S! C5 h: l
3 K/ m% Z1 Z8 ~( Y0 }; L1 ~! IJ:你未听过XXX?& }! u. c$ D' _7 l! K: T- ?
ME:系(呢句答得最无奈 )1 k/ ]* `0 x& f4 w# Q, E% J: K# `. J
2 g3 ?; I7 j% c& @ ?1 M( kJ:连呢个都未听过?睇过你学JAVA都无耐喔
& q! ?2 y6 d! v* X+ R9 v. i7 HME:系,我今年二月份先开始自学隔; E2 ?! q7 }" ~6 H
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J:咁点解会用JAVA隔?用一个自己熟悉隔语言唔系仲好咩?例如C++- v$ a0 T8 A6 `8 R9 q
ME:我地无学过C++,而且要求用JAVA~~~~(听我咁讲,Jackson都无话说 )
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. C8 r& l2 X" {. m! yJ:(继续吹)如果你用XXX技术就可以轻松搞掂啦!(问技术部GG)系迈呀?
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8 s5 `1 [" }* W9 L7 {, i) l; DJ:(问技术部GG)你有乜野问题?- f7 M3 X. ?* r7 O; f
GG:C同JAVA有乜唔同0 b0 A0 C! s6 E9 F# [
ME:C系面向过程,JAVA系面向对象~~~(地球人都知点答)) `" g' c! ~" E" O6 `( c7 h2 p) |
, J3 v# ?. @, mJ:如果到时工作需要用到一种你从来未接触过隔语言,你认为你可以应付得来吗?/ m9 h* b* A8 e2 y1 n. Y0 S
ME:可以,我觉得我可以系短期内掌握一种新语言隔基本用法
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J:点解你咁肯定?
1 B8 h1 T3 f3 e. H. V8 eME:我以前都自学过qb,vb,亦用过VC,,所以我认为自己有比较丰富隔学习编程语言隔经验,所以要系短期内掌握一种新语言隔基本用法,我认为无问题。) b. ^4 }6 i0 [- H7 C
) Y3 }# [* Q8 m) ]: \- U% [5 S# G0 LJ:OK。你有乜野问题想问我地?! n" C8 [. `+ w" Q. O" a* q8 f/ Q0 x
ME:请问系汇丰几耐会有一次晋升隔机会?
6 v$ f. W3 N5 i3 a+ E0 |; C" @J:我地系睇你隔工作表现,开始要做够两年就可能会获得晋升隔机会。# y& t" C* O( p6 O$ H; T
/ C) f# f" y" l4 QME:我仲想了解下,会唔会有外派来其它城市深造呀、学习、交流之类隔野?4 d' w) }( r1 T. l% v' y
J:工作就有!具体要睇你跟边个PROJECT,我地会有外派到欧洲呀、香港等地隔PROJECT,到时要睇你跟隔PROJECT,而家我无办法具体回答你
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+ ~% `. I; _! [, l0 hME:OK,我隔问题就咁多2 D, |. ?9 K$ w# K3 H2 x. w. l8 l* `
J:多谢你来参加汇丰隔面试,我地会系两至四周内通知你结果
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2 T: w+ h; E! L至此,汇丰面试PK战结束。出来时大概是2:40,面了25分钟左右。被Jackson追着来问的那几分钟真难熬~~~~~~ . `, M( _! d' O1 E
感觉面得一般般,现在在焦虑地等待通知中,总觉得前途茫茫,啊~~~~~~
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一、面完已经头脑空白,思维混乱`~~~ 这是凭印象写的,某些问题的顺序可能搞反了,但总体是这个流程没错。
; P p4 y2 d* W8 {1 \二、没问职业规划,被他逼着问技术问题。
* ^ b8 P, Y6 m- t: \6 q三、有人说“汇丰就是英语加吹水,没什么技术含量”,我看不然,没一定技术,吹水也是不容易D。就好像我这个例子,开头口快说了个”design“,他就追着不放,又用我application form 中的话打击我,想自圆其说是很难的`~~~- ]& U, e* s" \( \7 K3 J3 ~
四、上学期就已经DOWN了软件工程的教程,但一直没花时间来看,现在是深受打击了,后悔+反省ing
8 t/ |2 `3 b; M$ }5 h. P2 F5 W, z五、感觉Jackson很喜欢用你的弱点来打击你(非计算机专业的就很明白了,不知道计算机的兄弟们有没有这种感觉),接下来要接受Jackson”洗礼“的可要做好心理准备。5 P2 w+ G3 k, w7 V
六、这篇东东花了我两个小时,只希望对未来到汇丰面试的兄弟姐妹们有所帮助~~~~~有空再作修改。
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