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6 L' |; y1 V$ z" _! Z* P0 o今天很累,又是照毕业照,又要去汇丰面试,然后过龙洞继续照,穿着皮鞋走了一天,疼呀`~~~[em06]
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好像扯远了 ,进入正题:
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汇丰通知2:00pm面的,偶2:00pm才到公司门口(万恶的3号线,浪费我20分钟,差D迟到 ),然后由何MM带着进去,在Jackson Yu的Office门口等。过了几分钟,一中大的GG又到了,他是2:30面的(不知道他面得怎么样)。我们一边谈一边等Jackson~~~~~! L+ ?( C$ h+ o5 {8 d) U
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大概2:15吧,我进去开始。里面除了Jackson(以下简称J),还有一个技术部的GG(简称G),以下括号内容为注释。好,PK开始~~~~ PK内容均用粤语~~~~
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8 ]/ u1 N: X* z~~~~~(省略问候语)
( t0 Q/ j2 H; K% K; A5 D0 qJ:你点识XXX(偶推荐人,三月初已经在汇丰上班)架?/ f7 Z8 ?( k: Q) A% A4 E
ME:(一开始就问这个,吓了一跳)距系我班隔。2 B. C3 i' V: H. q1 ^
2 e6 g1 q$ U8 b+ b1 N4 A0 zJ:咁点解你比距迟咁多先投汇丰呀?/ T5 I1 v4 w9 v6 I: G7 U; Q& u
ME:因为上学期我主要系准备考研,无谂稳工隔野。4 C9 D* S- E1 @9 m2 A
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J:哦,考边呀?/ r- g% B/ V) P
ME:XXX
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J:几分呀?
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J:同上线分差好多喔!/ I( u* y% i) {- O* F
ME:系,因为数学考得唔好(讲到偶伤心处[em06] )
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J:点解你用咁多时间准备都考得唔好呀?
. q8 A$ N# [6 YME:因为我时间分配得唔好,导致数学考试隔失败。/ U' ~! E! i, B) Z$ n: C( ]
! D b; e1 Q- Y; v# H7 zJ:如果汇丰要你,你最快几时上班?(我系网上睇过隔面经当中,呢条都系作为Jackson隔last quetion,竟然咁快问我,汗 )
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J:至少为止有无Offer呀?
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J:咁有无投过其它公司呀?9 N6 P- ]1 R1 f" [1 ^7 X8 b
ME:投过几间,只有两间有过面试,不过都已经无晒消息(偶投简历唔勤快,师弟师妹们莫学我 )7 m; k f7 _5 U% U3 D- |+ F
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J:哦,边两间呀?
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J:具体做D乜架?
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. `( K+ i+ A1 JJ:好隔。咁而家我地来用英文交谈下啦。(戏玉来啦)
1 a( F- w3 U- x6 X. y3 FME:好。& ~, {- d: i9 l$ q) ^
: W7 v! H& l# P! D$ Z! p5 OJ:what can you do in the first year?
) t! R$ ?% Z3 jME:do some coding, testing ,maintance ,design and so on (口快快讲多左个design,噩梦开始 )9 j. m) e* W( c/ v# Y5 X
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J:design?how to design?# A9 J" ]* g1 D) P5 M0 E+ w
ME:first do some required demand(需求分析,唔知有无译错,反正当时我就系咁答) ,then coding .....(被打断)
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" ^# b( W3 J5 a) T5 } l% E- I+ E8 z- oJ:required demand ?how to do?
8 S! s# r- k: D9 g6 Q4 z! IME:contract with my customer...(再次被打断)! n9 i& }# F& n2 N+ }; s
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J:i don't think our customers would tell you .then how will you do ?
, k1 P$ Z+ i1 K# J! w. w/ q) b8 \ME:(有点怯场)er...i can ask my friends who's working in the similar cases.7 o( H- ?& N! L% h
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J:your friend will know HSBC's work?no, i don't think so .now tell me how to do ?
% r2 N2 s: p- k" O0 KME:(更加怕怕)er...maybe i can serch the information in the internet ,like search engine...
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+ W: F, ?8 J$ P! B6 x- V( h& O( FJ:you mean you use internet whole day and do nothing?" U7 N0 ~/ g. O& Q3 h1 W
ME:no ....(但此时已经哑口无言,Jackson则继续追问)
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J:you say you can do the work like "system analyse immediately"(指我份application form 上面写隔野),但系无十年经验系无可能立即做系统分析隔,系迈呀?(呢句系同技术部GG讲隔。)说明你对软件工程一d都唔熟(呢度用番中文)% {. v9 F; c( _
ME:我已经唔知点答好6 ~! l2 H7 O8 Z5 `
(关于呢个问题纠缠左好耐,我谂有7到8分钟,可能唔止,果时思维已经好混乱 ,最后答左句:i can get the information from my leader,距先放过我 )* [7 a2 U5 s$ A! U; n' C/ H8 D" m
T/ d, O* k5 ]+ J. r# |J:would you how to finish a software project?
4 u0 t' E9 m/ _& v" QME:yes ,i have experiece about this ......(省略前三个项目)...and the latest project is my final project。
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7 }& D+ i4 f! k2 B% W2 o! z Q6 E3 qJ:what is this project about?) K( ^7 b. \6 L( {" N2 F
ME:it's about a product manage system ,i'm required to use java and database technology to finish it.(主要系用JAVA写界面,然后连接数据库)' i9 Q J; Q0 }4 D
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ME:yes
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& T3 Y' h/ E4 Z. hJ:how long have you done ?% d3 }( u/ t+ {; h" P" ^
ME:i start form this term but i have several exams at that time .so i start it exactly at april$ {% x0 ~2 G, O! W/ m8 _
6 a# n$ h/ ?& XJ:so you do this jod about two months?! p+ G4 o' h( X3 I1 I, K
ME:yes
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6 f5 x/ \4 w: N6 I1 N3 mJ:what do you learn about software engineering form this project?
. ^5 f# s8 `0 j! n; mME:i know how to design a software.
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ME:first we should do the planning work ,then coding ,testing .....(诸如此类啦,我都唔系好记得具体点答啦 )% d, ]1 @; O4 q6 y
; L& O0 Q H0 d I; u5 g4 C3 VJ:which is the most important part do you think?# h/ x" Q1 {# t. k# l
ME:the planning stage(参考网上面经的说法 )' A$ L" W/ }7 e, Q3 [4 ]
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ME:if we do the planning work well ,then the rest stages would be more easier.0 u" {( j- X s" m2 H- w! t' l
: C& o+ i5 K, ]6 A8 u+ N- MJ:in which part do you think you do the best?7 c$ w* Y( q) M/ ~% G! a/ J
ME:the database.(事实上偶只做左数据库部分,JAVA部分都未做 )
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J:why?(又来“逼供”). V# h, B: p1 j4 i1 J; Y+ z! }, W0 o
ME:because i have finished it and modify it several times and .....
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ME:no, i find this mothed in the wedsite .' e1 Y* X" O6 F* C- U b" g
' K5 x% V4 H, W6 f; h4 ~3 nJ:(继续问why)7 S, v7 m" D/ i; ]# N) @
ME:because i have finished it and modify it several times and .....(唔知点答,请求用中文,批准), o: O6 S: f4 q3 {! `3 b
ME:我参考过网上一D好有经验隔数据库设计人员隔思想来修改数据库,呢部份我大概做左三个星期,而且我同指导老师讨论过,距都同意咁样建系好有效隔~~~~
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J:(显然未满意,继续追问点解)
T: z2 b D+ J& O# _ME:(又有点不知所措,只系重复左上面句话。而家谂番,Jackson应该系想知道具体实现方法,我应该答:“我用左数据冗余来简化数据查询次数~~~~~”但前面比距追问搞到头脑一片空白,未谂到咁答[em06] )5 a, \) u/ `* P$ K, c+ m' l# [- J6 r
) L% x; a' [8 t! y5 SJ:(最后Jackson都无追问落去)你个PROJECT完成未?
. a6 T+ \3 N* o- n* N& P# RME:未,做有JAVA部分未做,估计来紧呢两个星期可以完成。然后就做下TESTING,仲有写埋论文7 P/ w( e. d9 T) k8 W7 d5 ~! X
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J:你觉得你个PROJECT有边部分系可以继续改进隔?尽管你未完成
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ME:数据库系后台供查询隔,我地要求用JAVA写界面,呢个系面向客户,我认为连接数据库呢PART改进得好隔话可以为客户提供更大隔便利(呢度有D吹水,当时都无乜经过大脑思考就咁答啦,汗自己一个 )( M2 E2 d3 @! D: a
( m N$ n& q6 E p uJ:如果你用XXX就方便啦~~~
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4 @% e2 A' e) A! D/ MJ:你未听过XXX?
. h; w& ^, F' {, g7 [/ QME:系(呢句答得最无奈 )
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/ w$ j) R2 s, F/ W9 r' B7 TJ:连呢个都未听过?睇过你学JAVA都无耐喔
9 k+ h1 g& E: F h3 ~ME:系,我今年二月份先开始自学隔
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0 @5 u7 W: W+ S. Y# _J:咁点解会用JAVA隔?用一个自己熟悉隔语言唔系仲好咩?例如C++
% n. K1 M1 K6 }& s* QME:我地无学过C++,而且要求用JAVA~~~~(听我咁讲,Jackson都无话说 )
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. i' M1 E1 |8 Q6 |$ HJ:(继续吹)如果你用XXX技术就可以轻松搞掂啦!(问技术部GG)系迈呀?
9 Y2 G5 f! U8 @# wGG:都未必隔~~~~(好语重心长,唔知距系点谂隔)
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J:(问技术部GG)你有乜野问题?
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: q. q! K$ O- J" V0 m' zME:C系面向过程,JAVA系面向对象~~~(地球人都知点答)
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J:如果到时工作需要用到一种你从来未接触过隔语言,你认为你可以应付得来吗?% Y. {8 D$ B6 X6 s
ME:可以,我觉得我可以系短期内掌握一种新语言隔基本用法, v& m- X2 h6 g5 N
4 m! a9 q& L% u7 F3 t3 Z) ?J:点解你咁肯定? `5 Z1 E% q$ v/ G3 ?6 k
ME:我以前都自学过qb,vb,亦用过VC,,所以我认为自己有比较丰富隔学习编程语言隔经验,所以要系短期内掌握一种新语言隔基本用法,我认为无问题。) i3 ]5 i; W- }
- B4 p/ @' O; t9 z& AJ:OK。你有乜野问题想问我地?# L. \6 {: }1 |( k
ME:请问系汇丰几耐会有一次晋升隔机会?0 `5 N" p; e0 O+ x
J:我地系睇你隔工作表现,开始要做够两年就可能会获得晋升隔机会。7 t' S; R" S# i+ d) {
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ME:我仲想了解下,会唔会有外派来其它城市深造呀、学习、交流之类隔野?% ^ S3 T" i: n7 m* [, T, [7 o
J:工作就有!具体要睇你跟边个PROJECT,我地会有外派到欧洲呀、香港等地隔PROJECT,到时要睇你跟隔PROJECT,而家我无办法具体回答你# ?+ r$ T& g# {; z
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ME:OK,我隔问题就咁多
, a, K6 L; S. D6 EJ:多谢你来参加汇丰隔面试,我地会系两至四周内通知你结果
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- \2 l( e1 w# O! D至此,汇丰面试PK战结束。出来时大概是2:40,面了25分钟左右。被Jackson追着来问的那几分钟真难熬~~~~~~ ]: H/ t ~1 d4 D6 }7 c* q, }
感觉面得一般般,现在在焦虑地等待通知中,总觉得前途茫茫,啊~~~~~~
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总结:
* n- K0 k3 P3 l+ v一、面完已经头脑空白,思维混乱`~~~ 这是凭印象写的,某些问题的顺序可能搞反了,但总体是这个流程没错。% m9 T$ n$ b# W$ X% g3 u" O
二、没问职业规划,被他逼着问技术问题。
0 Y$ f8 r7 C- e三、有人说“汇丰就是英语加吹水,没什么技术含量”,我看不然,没一定技术,吹水也是不容易D。就好像我这个例子,开头口快说了个”design“,他就追着不放,又用我application form 中的话打击我,想自圆其说是很难的`~~~
% b! y( p8 ]( a& B四、上学期就已经DOWN了软件工程的教程,但一直没花时间来看,现在是深受打击了,后悔+反省ing: Z" h; U$ n5 [+ @* _( d! E4 B
五、感觉Jackson很喜欢用你的弱点来打击你(非计算机专业的就很明白了,不知道计算机的兄弟们有没有这种感觉),接下来要接受Jackson”洗礼“的可要做好心理准备。8 l& ?+ t6 K; ]3 f) ^4 ]+ L
六、这篇东东花了我两个小时,只希望对未来到汇丰面试的兄弟姐妹们有所帮助~~~~~有空再作修改。
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