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今天很累,又是照毕业照,又要去汇丰面试,然后过龙洞继续照,穿着皮鞋走了一天,疼呀`~~~[em06]
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好像扯远了 ,进入正题:
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: t- G$ f6 ]* ^( E" g# O汇丰通知2:00pm面的,偶2:00pm才到公司门口(万恶的3号线,浪费我20分钟,差D迟到 ),然后由何MM带着进去,在Jackson Yu的Office门口等。过了几分钟,一中大的GG又到了,他是2:30面的(不知道他面得怎么样)。我们一边谈一边等Jackson~~~~~# n3 @/ @! [1 f) s5 i0 k
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大概2:15吧,我进去开始。里面除了Jackson(以下简称J),还有一个技术部的GG(简称G),以下括号内容为注释。好,PK开始~~~~ PK内容均用粤语~~~~
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6 X. t; U p& {, k8 xJ:你点识XXX(偶推荐人,三月初已经在汇丰上班)架?' |9 R% {% {7 X. N
ME:(一开始就问这个,吓了一跳)距系我班隔。0 ?" ^3 x; x- Q7 g$ l7 d7 l
6 n8 R" K2 f4 C2 D9 aJ:咁点解你比距迟咁多先投汇丰呀?
0 `$ R& u6 W e: @+ |ME:因为上学期我主要系准备考研,无谂稳工隔野。2 A8 k6 N& j6 `& y) B! a
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J:哦,考边呀?/ C6 l6 t1 i8 J5 z1 O# n6 _
ME:XXX
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J:几分呀?$ ^5 P2 v9 [% |+ L: I! ~
ME:XXX
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J:同上线分差好多喔!/ T0 _+ P+ \* U4 t6 r- M
ME:系,因为数学考得唔好(讲到偶伤心处[em06] )
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+ @, J) h q$ Q1 L! X/ A& GJ:点解你用咁多时间准备都考得唔好呀?& d! z) x3 ], h: X. ?2 @% h
ME:因为我时间分配得唔好,导致数学考试隔失败。2 b# }8 P5 I( s/ ]$ K
/ y. ^; @$ F, z( ~J:如果汇丰要你,你最快几时上班?(我系网上睇过隔面经当中,呢条都系作为Jackson隔last quetion,竟然咁快问我,汗 )
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J:至少为止有无Offer呀?
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J:咁有无投过其它公司呀?- x) \/ b! {- _2 p
ME:投过几间,只有两间有过面试,不过都已经无晒消息(偶投简历唔勤快,师弟师妹们莫学我 )% t+ _0 `' [" ^6 Z7 ?, v9 l
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J:哦,边两间呀?
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J:具体做D乜架?
0 m# ?( C5 C7 B' i" iME:XXX主要做网络管理、系统维护等,YYY主要做设备,同我地专业相关。) ~! C9 Y* ?6 q( R+ u
" r4 B3 A% J) V6 S6 R9 I: mJ:好隔。咁而家我地来用英文交谈下啦。(戏玉来啦)) s# m: O9 ?3 H/ z8 d5 x
ME:好。! x0 o* l2 Y& k6 a5 C
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J:what can you do in the first year?
% T5 z2 J' D9 e3 M; f% q, S& \ME:do some coding, testing ,maintance ,design and so on (口快快讲多左个design,噩梦开始 )
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9 i o/ I$ Z% h5 z3 g/ WJ:design?how to design?5 K# L" u$ c' Z0 ~# r
ME:first do some required demand(需求分析,唔知有无译错,反正当时我就系咁答) ,then coding .....(被打断)
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J:required demand ?how to do? B" g7 w& G- K2 \3 u$ ^) ~1 J- {, `5 J
ME:contract with my customer...(再次被打断)
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. C b% r! k: T. ?$ D( @% \5 P8 CJ:i don't think our customers would tell you .then how will you do ?/ Q+ E$ t; i/ ^% Y
ME:(有点怯场)er...i can ask my friends who's working in the similar cases.
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3 [1 } k1 @7 b1 s: X* w% C: rJ:your friend will know HSBC's work?no, i don't think so .now tell me how to do ?6 f, ]" ^8 V5 |! @# @- f H9 i
ME:(更加怕怕)er...maybe i can serch the information in the internet ,like search engine...
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2 @6 l8 T" ^( h2 r" ~J:you mean you use internet whole day and do nothing?% D u' O: G" S9 d \
ME:no ....(但此时已经哑口无言,Jackson则继续追问) q8 S1 w1 y. j7 P
% ]2 q. L0 K! A$ mJ:you say you can do the work like "system analyse immediately"(指我份application form 上面写隔野),但系无十年经验系无可能立即做系统分析隔,系迈呀?(呢句系同技术部GG讲隔。)说明你对软件工程一d都唔熟(呢度用番中文)
2 g# c5 ~4 I' G b G& ]& FME:我已经唔知点答好2 r: ^6 O' G; Q0 Y* {4 k0 V+ x
(关于呢个问题纠缠左好耐,我谂有7到8分钟,可能唔止,果时思维已经好混乱 ,最后答左句:i can get the information from my leader,距先放过我 )! B- w+ _) E) j( s3 r u
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J:would you how to finish a software project?+ k7 u1 s" \# o+ _% O; Y& R6 p
ME:yes ,i have experiece about this ......(省略前三个项目)...and the latest project is my final project。( E6 Z+ v( Z, l. Q. \
/ D6 Y# F! K/ BJ:what is this project about?
/ u5 s- C0 i5 V9 BME:it's about a product manage system ,i'm required to use java and database technology to finish it.(主要系用JAVA写界面,然后连接数据库)
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; Y" G% Q+ L! y) SJ:do you do this job by yourself alone?
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$ Z7 N+ R/ @1 c# h5 [J:how long have you done ?
- _# A5 n) E' U2 HME:i start form this term but i have several exams at that time .so i start it exactly at april0 q! U1 V9 s9 \
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J:so you do this jod about two months?' E2 C- A f1 C+ i e
ME:yes
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( A5 f' K9 r* @$ E3 ?! G% H6 H* QME:i know how to design a software.
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J:how?9 w6 B1 c$ x: c0 ]- B% D* o4 q; N
ME:first we should do the planning work ,then coding ,testing .....(诸如此类啦,我都唔系好记得具体点答啦 )% O8 C5 X% C7 h- q H
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J:which is the most important part do you think? e1 q3 e- P7 t$ r- t
ME:the planning stage(参考网上面经的说法 )
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J:why?1 \( I9 l: _' [ j6 q* u
ME:if we do the planning work well ,then the rest stages would be more easier. W+ q$ g' d- Q, ^+ T1 c+ z
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J:in which part do you think you do the best?- L7 Q# ] S0 S3 @# S
ME:the database.(事实上偶只做左数据库部分,JAVA部分都未做 )
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J:why?(又来“逼供”)
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ME:no, i find this mothed in the wedsite .
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8 N3 o9 v4 F* u3 q& W) WME:because i have finished it and modify it several times and .....(唔知点答,请求用中文,批准)6 K: b3 `; g! z" Z$ n/ N3 l% U8 s
ME:我参考过网上一D好有经验隔数据库设计人员隔思想来修改数据库,呢部份我大概做左三个星期,而且我同指导老师讨论过,距都同意咁样建系好有效隔~~~~: t, ]" ]& Q+ p
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J:(显然未满意,继续追问点解)/ {8 D8 R* i( C: D
ME:(又有点不知所措,只系重复左上面句话。而家谂番,Jackson应该系想知道具体实现方法,我应该答:“我用左数据冗余来简化数据查询次数~~~~~”但前面比距追问搞到头脑一片空白,未谂到咁答[em06] )
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9 ?/ W( G# o V' {; oJ:(最后Jackson都无追问落去)你个PROJECT完成未?8 _& L5 C, ?+ }& `& P: h4 M
ME:未,做有JAVA部分未做,估计来紧呢两个星期可以完成。然后就做下TESTING,仲有写埋论文
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J:你觉得你个PROJECT有边部分系可以继续改进隔?尽管你未完成! }! _5 f4 v: T! Q. S1 Z M
ME:JAVA同数据库连接隔呢PART a7 e: t+ S, p
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\. w; f. ~! Q6 ?7 G0 AME:数据库系后台供查询隔,我地要求用JAVA写界面,呢个系面向客户,我认为连接数据库呢PART改进得好隔话可以为客户提供更大隔便利(呢度有D吹水,当时都无乜经过大脑思考就咁答啦,汗自己一个 )
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J:如果你用XXX就方便啦~~~- d4 M7 X S. `- P2 O/ |
ME:???(唔知距讲乜 ). e- |0 O) Z- H" i8 ^3 c5 `- G
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J:你未听过XXX?3 X% o z* ^( }3 y" z8 d
ME:系(呢句答得最无奈 )
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J:连呢个都未听过?睇过你学JAVA都无耐喔: g& f4 u r, R! V5 p# {2 o) r- ~" L
ME:系,我今年二月份先开始自学隔
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J:咁点解会用JAVA隔?用一个自己熟悉隔语言唔系仲好咩?例如C++
; \) j: c8 c& E. V( }ME:我地无学过C++,而且要求用JAVA~~~~(听我咁讲,Jackson都无话说 )# ?3 `% k/ H2 G9 X
! c" ^* `8 {# W: ~" L, p9 `J:(继续吹)如果你用XXX技术就可以轻松搞掂啦!(问技术部GG)系迈呀?0 s* g9 V/ F- Z
GG:都未必隔~~~~(好语重心长,唔知距系点谂隔): w3 N% p0 [/ r+ u
/ Q* a+ i0 q7 l, w( zJ:(问技术部GG)你有乜野问题?% D: d2 O$ N/ ~- q' q
GG:C同JAVA有乜唔同
$ }) K% K1 L. D& ?ME:C系面向过程,JAVA系面向对象~~~(地球人都知点答)
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: U6 h- Q1 w: RME:我以前都自学过qb,vb,亦用过VC,,所以我认为自己有比较丰富隔学习编程语言隔经验,所以要系短期内掌握一种新语言隔基本用法,我认为无问题。
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; `6 W: z; J1 {J:OK。你有乜野问题想问我地?/ S5 r9 B+ V+ ], t9 s8 W, y0 k
ME:请问系汇丰几耐会有一次晋升隔机会?
1 U9 [ W- J; y' Y$ \3 F- M8 qJ:我地系睇你隔工作表现,开始要做够两年就可能会获得晋升隔机会。2 }5 X+ Q$ S4 z) ?, G( A
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ME:我仲想了解下,会唔会有外派来其它城市深造呀、学习、交流之类隔野?
) N9 U: U3 h R; r' b! o0 j% w4 {J:工作就有!具体要睇你跟边个PROJECT,我地会有外派到欧洲呀、香港等地隔PROJECT,到时要睇你跟隔PROJECT,而家我无办法具体回答你
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% U, R3 ]. O R6 N7 QME:OK,我隔问题就咁多# E( C+ h( B; L; [# G; a& m
J:多谢你来参加汇丰隔面试,我地会系两至四周内通知你结果
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$ M( x7 {' _1 I; D: D至此,汇丰面试PK战结束。出来时大概是2:40,面了25分钟左右。被Jackson追着来问的那几分钟真难熬~~~~~~ 9 f5 h: T& Y K0 r$ o a3 q+ u
感觉面得一般般,现在在焦虑地等待通知中,总觉得前途茫茫,啊~~~~~~ ; V8 u4 q1 |$ z% M! ~
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总结:
) D. `, g4 ?$ n; l' {一、面完已经头脑空白,思维混乱`~~~ 这是凭印象写的,某些问题的顺序可能搞反了,但总体是这个流程没错。, v- M7 Y# n b0 ^; M
二、没问职业规划,被他逼着问技术问题。8 g) }( F5 S# }5 K: c
三、有人说“汇丰就是英语加吹水,没什么技术含量”,我看不然,没一定技术,吹水也是不容易D。就好像我这个例子,开头口快说了个”design“,他就追着不放,又用我application form 中的话打击我,想自圆其说是很难的`~~~* Q. J+ j8 z* W" o1 W/ N
四、上学期就已经DOWN了软件工程的教程,但一直没花时间来看,现在是深受打击了,后悔+反省ing: z* O" _/ a6 ~4 B4 @
五、感觉Jackson很喜欢用你的弱点来打击你(非计算机专业的就很明白了,不知道计算机的兄弟们有没有这种感觉),接下来要接受Jackson”洗礼“的可要做好心理准备。0 {7 z2 m6 J3 {# L$ g( ?( h
六、这篇东东花了我两个小时,只希望对未来到汇丰面试的兄弟姐妹们有所帮助~~~~~有空再作修改。
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